The makers of the film Expelledclaim that supporters of Intelligent Design are persecuted and hounded out of their jobs because of their beliefs, which are religious beliefs, and therefore this is religious persecution. In general, their examples are of people who are incompetent, unproductive, or simply misrepresenting the facts altogether. But there’s more… A commenter at the Twin Cities Pioneer Press gives some counterexamples. David Edwards from Runcorn, U.K., has this to say:
…the basic premise of this film, namely that scientists who dare to question an existing paradigm have their careers trashed, is garbage. I can name three scientists who did precisely that and whose careers flourished afterwards. Two of them won Nobel Prizes. Look up Barry Marshall, Stanley Prusiner and Lynn Margulis. None of whom were “Expelled” – instead, their work became part of mainstream science.
Creationists and IDists whinge about being denied a place at science’s top table, yet perform NO experimental laboratory work, perform NO critically robust research, submit NOTHING to critically robust journals for peer review and examination of the arguments. They want the privileges and imprimatur of science without doing any of the work. Instead, they spend their tax-exempt funding on propaganda, misinformation, continued carping about evolutionary biology despite the fact that evolutionary biology has been responsible for advances that have helped keep people alive via the subsequent development of medical technology, and have NO positive argument. All that they have is carping, and the PRETENCE that their ideas are somehow “scientific” whilst anyone who has read the Dover Trial transcripts knows that they are in fact a front for RELIGION. The FACTS and the EVIDENCE are on the side of REAL SCIENCE.
To wear the mantle of Galileo, it is not enough to be persecuted: you must also be right.







Wednesday, 7 May 2008 at 22:54
A quote worth a cite:
“It is not enough to wear the mantle of Galileo: that you be persecuted by an unkind establishment. You must also be right.” — Robert L. Park
http://www.ntskeptics.org/2000/2000april/april2000.htm
See also:
Voodoo science: The road from foolishness to fraud
by Robert L. Park
ISBN: 0195135166
Oxford University Press
APS director of public affairs Robert Park
Wednesday, 7 May 2008 at 22:57
http://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/200607/bob-park.cfm
Wednesday, 7 May 2008 at 23:36
Right! I’ve read that book! Voodoo Science: The Road from Foolishness to Fraud.
Thursday, 12 November 2009 at 07:13
The similarity between Galileo case and ID is the use of authority to favor one theory and ban another. Effectively dogma based on authority.
Thursday, 12 November 2009 at 09:50
The difference is that ID is not even a hypothesis: it offers no conjecture about mechanism that can be tested. It’s merely a nitpick of details about the evolutionary explanation, based on a straw-man understanding of evolution. For example, Dembski’s mathematical “disproofs” of evolution assume constraints that no one actually espouses, making his work an elaborate equivalent of “Bees can’t fly! Mathematics says so!” where the math assumed that a bee was a fixed-wing aircraft.
It’s easy to knock down a straw man.